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boris3073
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:51 am Club USA / Club World Casinos - Views on this please? |
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Club World (USA) Casino, can anyone say they have won there recently?
I have been playing there for ages, and no matter what i seem to do, i just cant seem to win, I might get a few small wins every now and then, but i never seem to get much more than that. My last withdrawal was back in October, and i have finally had enough.
I have tried playing at all times of day and night, during the weekend, during the week, betting big, betting small, but none of these methods really seem very fruitfull.
So im asking for other peoples veiws on this casino please?
I obviously have tried playing at other RTG casinos, and it appears a hell of a lot easier to win elsewhere. So from now on i will not be playing at Club World (USA) Casino. But i wouldn't mind knowing how other people feel about this.
I know for a fact RTG Casinos can alter their payout percentage, so i am wondering if this could be the cause of the lack of wins? Or another reason could be the sheer volume of players they have?
Views Please?
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:06 pm (No subject) |
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Right, im with you,
In my opinion, it works like this,
The slot machine will only pay what it wants, so if you are betting big, and it only wants to pay small amounts you will never get a win betting big, because the amount the amount it would have to pay on your big bet exceeds the small amounts it wants to pay. So when you decrease your bet, your bet substantially your win amount for that smaller bet will fall also, and probably will fall below what it wants to pay. So therefore you will get a win, but it will never be a win you will can a great win, because it doesn't want to pay big wins only small wins.
Now the amount the slots games want to pay is based on two factors (or three factors when playing a random jackpot game) and that is this:
First Factor)
The amount of money in the slot games so called paying out pot. The more money that goes in depends on the amount of money the slot game is willing to payout. This is based on the payout percentage the slots game is set to. With Microgaming casinos the casino operators cannot change this setting.
So how much a Microgaming Casino will payout on its slots is purely based upon the amount of money going into the slots games payout pot and the second factor (see below).
As for the RTG casino's, the casino operators have the option of setting the payout percentage of the slot games to what they want, so the amount of the slots games payout is based on the percentage setting the casino operators has set its slots games to, the amount of money going into the slots games payout pot and the second factor (see below).
Second Factor)
Just like coin slot machines, how many times have you played a slot game, and within 5 to 10 spins you all of a sudden have a big or substantial win? And quite frequently on your first or second spin you get a big or substantial win?
Quite a lot you must be saying right?
So the second factor for paying out is based upon how long the slot games been without a player playing it. Basically it’s like a linear line, which rises from the minute the last player, played until the next player arrives and plays the slot game. The more the line rises during the time that nobody plays the more it will payout. So the more time in between players playing that slot game the more the slot game is likely to payout.
So in my opinion to summarise, if you have the first factor but don't have the second factor the amount you can win will be very small, because there is always a player playing to suck up the wins it want to pay as the time between players never increases enough to award a substantial win.
And of course if you have the second factor but not the first factor, then the slot machine is willing to pay, but of course the amount it wants to pay will be very small because there is not enough money in the pot to payout a substantial win.
Third Factor)
Obviously the random jackpot will pay randomly so not explaining needed.
Now these are my own opinions.
There is a forth factor which I have not quite mastered yet, and that seems to be when you bet big for a while it seems as though you can sort of tip the scales for paying out. When I have bet big, on occasion it seems like the payout has filled to a point when it has to pay, and when it does I have won a big win.
With the forth factor it is quite easy to assume you can do this with every slot you play, and that’s when I lose big. Hence I say I have not quite mastered it yet.
These are my own views, and I could quite easily be wrong, but im very interested to hear other peoples views on this.
And you Rhonda, I know that Club World Casino and Inetbet are extremely popular casinos indeed, and therefore it would seem as though when playing these, you have plenty of the first factor but none of the second factor.
And I think the only way to win at either of those two casinos would be to bet big, but that has clear perils attached to the bet big method, and that’s losing big too.
I think a topic for discussion that would prove so useful for us players would be a "where and when did you win" topic, and in particular specifically for RTG casino's as they can adjust their payout percentages.
More Views please?
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:12 pm (No subject) |
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Yes Valeria your delay story fits with my second factor theory, which i certain is the case,
how many times do you win on your first ten spins, or after a delay?
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:31 pm (No subject) |
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I do still think a topic on where and when did you win at, specificly on RTG casino's would be great, as RTG CAN AND DO alter their payout percentages for their games.
There's a whole forum called Lucky Winners for that kinda thing
There are many opinions of 'ways to win' - and I've tried many different approaches myself. I don't believe there is a 'sure fire' way of winning - however much you put in. You could load up a machine with $10,000 - and lose it all and a player the next day might only put in $50 and win $20,000.
At the end of the day, I believe its just luck - good or bad.
As for RTG 'altering payouts' - I do believe this is possible (and this can either be to the better or worse), but I know I've had a good amount of wins at Casino Extreme (although haven't played so much recently), and I always heard that iNetBet seemed one of the most fair.
Cheers,
Geno/CC
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:03 pm (No subject) |
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I beleive your right, there is definitely no hard and fast rule that will win every time, but there are some factors that make it easier to win or lose.
Time of day, how popular, or not etc etc,
My feelings are having tried all of them are that i can't win at Club World Casino, and thus will have to play elsewhere.
I have won big at other casino's and not found the cashout button, at least i can blame that on myself, i had the choice, but playing at Club World, i never seem to even get the luxury to say that.
Having spoken to Jason of Club World, he has stated to me that they can and do set the payout percentage, for slots its currently 95% fyi.
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:06 pm (No subject) |
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Hmmm.. i have also tried that method, but my patience sometimes lets me down.
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