Listen up USA members we need your help please

Last edited by OrangeCrush on Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:34 am; edited 1 time in total

Hello USA Crushers!!

As of midnight, August 22nd, Eco Card will no longer process any payment transactions originating from US located customers that may be related to online gambling.

What does this mean? Your account will remain open but you can no longer make deposits from your Eco Card account to any online gambling establishment.

Since most of the members here at CC use their winnings to gamble with we need another site to replace Eco Card. This site has to allow peer-to-peer transfers and allow UK residents to join. (Geno is located in the UK)

Crushers, Geno has visiting many, many sites regarding payment options over the past 8 months and with him located in the UK its very hard to find a place that accepts both USA and UK and he really needs our help please.

If you have used a site that accepts USA and UK people and allows peer to peer transfers, please make a post and let us know and he'll check them out.

If you want to suggest a site but not sure if they allow peer to peer or UK residents, please check it out first and then post it if it does.

If we get more then one recommendation then we'll do a poll to see what is the most popular, because we only want to use 1 site if at all possible.

Crushers, please remember, the money you win from CC is free money and Geno has worked very hard to get your winnings to you the fastest and best way he can. Its not his fault that the United States has thrown a monkey wrench into online gambling, so please be patient when you are due funds. I guarantee you'll get them and you'll get them the fastest way possible.

What we need now is your help so we can get back to playing!! lol Please help us!!!

Happy Gaming Always!

OrangeCrush Wink

LATEST NOTES: (being updated once we've read your posts)

NOT AVAILABLE:
Obopay - requires a valid US phone number to validate so suspect that it's for USA residents only.
Moneybookers - Does not allow processing of Online Gaming transactions for USA members

CURRENT POSSIBILITIES:
QuickTender - dependent on Geno being able to get an account!
NetSpend cards - however would incur approx $5 per transaction charge - this would need to be taken by the payee (winner of the prize). Could possibly allow members to build up prizes so that the charge (fixed regardless of amount) is still only $5 deducted rather than per win.
Paypal - considering possibility of this / potential security issues (you can't gamble via Paypal on many casino sites but can fund NetSpend via Paypal for example). Again - members would need to take the charges.

Geno's last view on this... (updating from time to time as appropriate)
Generally speaking where charges are a lot more the only option is for members to incur the charges (it works the same either way - we only have a certain pot of money available to give as prizes - so if we paid the charges - there would be less prizes). Also it's unfair to non-USA members where charges are much less to have to reduce the prize pot. Please bear in mind that we are effectively incurring the charge by paying the prizes in the first place wink

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:59 am (No subject)

QuickTender may not be widely accepted yet, but allows peer-to-peer transfers and is based in europe ( so I am assuming it is ok in the UK)

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:28 am (No subject)

Hi nana, I asked Geno about Quick Tender earlier and he hasn't received an invitation to join because he's not in the USA. He is trying to get an affiliate manager to see if they can squeeze him in some how. Quick Tender may be just for USA I don't know, but we'll find out. Smile

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Thanks for your suggestion!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:50 am (No subject)

How about wired plastic I have ran into alot people talking about that I assume obopay doesn't allow UK?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:49 pm (No subject)

I can't think of any method yet, but i will look around and if i find anything i'll be back to post.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:20 pm (No subject)

Hi msfilly and luvslots!

msfilly do you know if wired plastic accepts residents from the UK and peer to peer transfers hun? **I just checked and for USA only Sad

but thanks for the recommendation!!

luvslots, thanks I appreciate your help!!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:20 pm (No subject)

Has anyone had any experience with www.moneybookers.com? I have had an account with them for a long time, but never have used it. It appears that they do allow UK residents and peer to peer transfers.

But does anyone know how long it takes to transfer from moneybookers to checking, cost or would they by any remote chance have a atm card too? hehee Yes Crushers ... I want it ALL!!! lmaoooo

Any help is appreciated Crushers!!!

Thank you!!!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:03 pm (No subject)

I had Moneybookers but they stopped transferring money for gambling if you live in U.S.
I got this from their website today:

"Furthermore, it is strictly forbidden for citizens or residents of the United States of America, Turkey, China, Malaysia or Israel to send payments to websites offering gambling services such as sports betting, casino games and pokers games."

I activated my Quicktender account yesterday. I got an email from Casino US saying they had pre-registered me, so it was pretty easy. I haven't deposited there yet because I'm going to get a Netspend or a Pre-paid Visa to fund it. It would be great if CC could use it for peer-to-peer transfers. It seems a lot of casinos are steering their players that way, but I'm ready to open an account wherever Geno finds one that works for all of us.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:01 pm (No subject)

i have been using net spend visa it works for rtg but not micro.but it can beused to fund to and from pay pal so i think thats what i am going to do.i don't know if that would work for uk or not.i have used pay pal before for other online purcheses and for casino acconts with no problems

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:51 pm (No subject)

Dear all,

Thanks for your replies so far - I have made a little 'Latest Notes' bit in the original topic so that you can quickly see our latest thoughts / findings / considerations.

Please remember this is all discussion - NOT final - so whilst things may appear as 'not an option' now - or 'an option' - things could change - this is just part of the process of us all helping each other to find the best alternative going forward wink

Please continue with your feedback - just facts / findings / maybe other ones to consider (but please also read what others have written so you're not repeating one another - means I will have more time to try out options rather than reading duplicates wink

Cheers,
Geno/CC

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:27 am (No subject)

Hello all you might have guessed i would be here to give you some info lol

Anyway I have just checked through all the online payment facilities I am registered with to see which ones had the features you want from a paymnet system and also accept players from USA/UK etc and not all had these except for this one.....

http://mycitadel.com

Here is the write up for them.

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I have an account here but not used it yet like many of the other accounts I have got, there has been no need for me to use them but handy to be signed up to.

There may be something I am missing from this that you are looking for but I have posted it anyway so it can be looked at. If i remember correctly I think this payment option is also available at some online casinos but could not verify that for sure.

Anyway see what you think

Good Luck, Very Happy

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:21 am (No subject)

I just did a "Bonus Search" here at CC, put Citadel as payment option and it gave me 180 different casinos, bingo halls, sports books etc.. I love that search option, and use it often. It's so great to be able to get the info you need so quickly.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:55 am (No subject)

I tried to sign up with myCitadel and got a message back that I was rejected! whaaaaaaa Sad

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:58 am (No subject)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:25 pm (No subject)

Thank you all for your input!!! It is very much appreciated!!! And Mel you are very sweet hun to help us out!!

USA Crushers that are now pending money, I think that we've came up with a "quick fix" and as soon as Geno approves it, I'll get it posted. This is only a "quick fix" so we are still looking for a permanent payment method.

Oh and webdeb, the search button is awesome!!! (I didn't know what it was for until a member told me about it Embarassed

roflmaoooo)

Please keep up the great work kids!!

Happy Gaming Always!

OrangeCrush Wink